Dont you see what Bill is saying here? He is saying that girls can use primo becuase it's low in androgens and it won't fuck with their voice. D-bol is low in adrogens, primo is low in adrogens. I understand that they are both in some degree "androgenic" but guess what, not nearly as much as the test in your own body. And you will be SHUTTING THAT DOWN!!! You are doing a cycle with very few androgens, this is not a good idea. The reason you hang on to your gains after primo is becuase your endocrine system is usually not in shambles after you are done. Well, in this case, your endocrine system wont be in shambles but the d-bol will have knocked your test levels down sufficiently. Hopefully your recovery is quick, otherwise you will not retain your magic primo gains, you will lose them like any other drug when you have a cessation of androgens in your system. This point is not worth arguing any longer.